Inconsistent clips after transcoding

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TomasR
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Inconsistent clips after transcoding

Post by TomasR »

Hello,

I use Smart Cutter v 1.4.8 for joining .MTS files from Sony CX305 camcorder.
After joning there are delays or some incorrect frames between scenes in the result file.
Checked the file with Eac3to ("Check Container For Corruption" button in the Eac3to and More GUI) and got messages:
"The source file seems to be damaged (discontinuity)."
It seems that Smart Cutter incorrectly transcodes clips' first/last frames. It is very strange because the clips were not trimmed - i've just joined original clips.

Operating system - Windows 7 x32
Stream Fix, TME Mode Enable audio VU meter, TC 0 BASE are off in the options.
(i've played with these options but this did not affect the result).

Where could be the problem?
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Re: Inconsistent clips after transcoding

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Dear TomasR:
Thanks for your message.

'The source file seems to be damaged (discontinuity).'
Please help us to show and identify the problem.
Could you please upload a video sample to our ftp server for a test?
It would be better if the sample file size is less than 100 MB.

If you can not find small sample, use this simple tool to split your movie file into small pieces, and upload any one of them.
http://www.softpedia.com/get/PORTABLE-S ... rger.shtml
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FULL priviliged --- mkdir, read, write, remove
Will be helpful to limit the sample file size under 100MB.
Thank you.

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Re: Inconsistent clips after transcoding

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Uploaded source files: 00009.MTS, 00010.MTS and resulting file (after joining 00009.MTS and 00010.MTS): 9_10_Result.MTS.12.MTS into TomasR directory
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Re: Inconsistent clips after transcoding

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Dear TomasR:
Thanks for your sample files.

'delays or some incorrect frames between scenes'
But we did not re-produce this on our end. We tried many popular hd video players(DXVA), including Splash, MPC HC, VLC etc, what is your video player then?

Looking forward to your further message.
Thank you very much.

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Re: Inconsistent clips after transcoding

Post by TomasR »

Hello,

I use standard Windows Media Player (don't know which version it is - just native Windows 7 media player)
Tried to play the same clip on hardware media player - Asus OPlay HDP-R1 (firmware version: 01.39P). Scenes change correctly, but after (about 0.5-1s) very short blink noticed.

The same clip on another computer (Windows XP x32), by Windows Media Player v10, played ok.
So maybe some players/codecs are more error tolerant/forgiving, but obviously there is something in the clip.
(remember? - i wrote that eac3to detects some inconsistency)
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Re: Inconsistent clips after transcoding

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" Scenes change correctly, but after (about 0.5-1s) very short blink noticed"
I mean that short blink noticed after scene change.
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Re: Inconsistent clips after transcoding

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Dear TomasR:
Sorry for the latency.

The 'discontinuity' shown in eac3to was the result of Smart Cutter.

As you know, Smart Cutter only modifies tiny parts around the cut points to achieve frame accuracy, and we try to keep the leftover main parts un-touched. This will maintain the most original quality as the source movie, though it may generate the 'discontinuity' as you mentioned.

The result with the 'discontinuity' is still a valid and correct transport video stream. Video player conforming to the TS standard should treat it correctly. Since H.264 is much more difficult to decode compared to MPEG2, we'd recommend strong players such as Splash, MPC HC, or VLC for H.264 playback.
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/Mirillis-Splash
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/Media-Pl ... ome-Cinema
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/VLC-media-player

Further more, we managed to eliminate the 'discontinuity' by changing the whole video sample. You can download and try it on your end, see whether it helps
http://www.fame-ring.com/samples/TomasR/9_10f.m2ts

Looking forward to your further message.
Thank you very much.

Best Regards,
FameRing Support Team
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Re: Inconsistent clips after transcoding

Post by TomasR »

Hello,
Thank you for the answer.
Now the clip, you've provided, plays OK.

> we managed to eliminate the 'discontinuity' by changing the whole video sample
How did you change the sample?

Regards,
Tomas R.
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Re: Inconsistent clips after transcoding

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Dear TomasR:
Thanks for your message.

'How did you change the sample?'
Step 1:
In Smart Cutter, use the 'Fix Video File' to process the sample, it will be saved as a new file.
Step 2:
Use TsMuxer to remux the fixed new file, we do not like this, since it will re-build and affect the whole video. It may lose some stream elements or lead to a/v in-sync some time.
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/tsMuxeR

Please feel free to send us your further advice and suggestion.
Thank you very much.

Best Regards,
FameRing Support Team
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Re: Inconsistent clips after transcoding

Post by TomasR »

Just tested the video on my HW player - Asus Oplay HDP-R1.
The short blinks are noticeable after scene change... :(
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